The Lion's Roundtable (Guest: Justin Anderson)
Download MP3Good day. This is Amber Narro on ninety point nine FM, The Lion here at KSOU at Southeastern. Welcome. Welcome. Welcome.
Amber Narro:And I also have a very good friend with me today at the Lion's Roundtable. It's my friend Justin Anderson, doctor Justin Anderson here at Southeastern. You're gonna be Justin and I'm Amber today. Is that cool?
Justin Anderson:That
Amber Narro:works. Fantastic. Doctor Justin Anderson, just Justin for today, is a virus hunter, and he has two labs, I get well, one lab with two sections of students who are digging around in dirt right now looking for viruses. Why are y'all digging in dirt? What's happening?
Justin Anderson:Well, this is a great class for introducing first year freshman students to biology research. So we are hunting for viruses that infect bacteria that are found in soil and they're not important bacteria. Most of them are safe for working with, they only cause human infection, they might be associated with a weird little infection, but really it's a process of understanding how to do science but also understand the diversity of viruses that are out there because we don't know The what's out
Amber Narro:importance of this research from what I've gathered from watching many of your presentations, I need to come to your lab one day and watch y'all dig around. I think that would be very cool. I need to do that. But I've heard you present on this several times, and the importance of this is that you are trying to help with antibiotic resistance in some sort of way. Tell me about that.
Amber Narro:We hear about it constantly. We hear the hospital locally here talk about antibiotic resistance and and being careful and making sure that you take all your antibiotics as prescribed, prescribed but don't take too many all the time, you don't need to take antibiotics for a sniffle. Talk to me about the antibiotic resistance and how this is helping. What is digging around in dirt have anything to do with that?
Justin Anderson:Yeah, absolutely. So the pathogens that we worry about, you know, we're throwing those antibiotics like you just said at them and some people are doing it right and some people are doing it wrong and if you do it wrong, you give those bacteria a chance to get used to those antibiotics. They evolve resistance to them.
Amber Narro:And
Justin Anderson:then the antibiotics don't work anymore and bacteria sort of like to share their genetic information. So a resistant bacteria
Amber Narro:Oh that's kind of though. It's nice isn't it? Yeah sure.
Justin Anderson:A resistant bacterium can give those resistance genes to other bacteria that are not resistant and that threat of antibiotic resistance spreads and we now have some bacterial infections, tuberculosis is a big one that in many cases are completely resistant to antibiotic treatment.
Amber Narro:Oh wow.
Justin Anderson:And so yeah, those people get put in a room and don't go by them and or gown up and and. Our, I said before, the bacteria that we are working on are not pathogenic and so we're really looking at trying to understand how viruses work and looking at a broad diversity of viruses that might do different things, we might be able to co opt what one virus does and use it against something that's antibiotic resistant. There's a lot of research right now into phage therapy. So phages are viruses that infect bacteria and they kill them and so if you run out of antibiotics but you have a virus that will kill that particular pathogen, in theory you can use it to treat a bacterial infection. Ours, like I said, are not pathogenic bacteria, but again understanding how a virus works might let you engineer a virus that can kill a pathogenic organism.
Justin Anderson:Remember these are freshmen.
Amber Narro:And that's good. We're not,
Justin Anderson:yes, that's very good.
Amber Narro:Yes, so this morning you texted me and said, hey, I can come and talk to you about this and you put in all big capital letters, we have phages. Yes. What does that mean?
Justin Anderson:So, I have 40 students in those two sections now, actually 40 samples that we've run. Me rephrase We have isolated already on day three of the semester, I think at least 27 viruses from our soil samples.
Amber Narro:Okay, so what you do just to kind of back this up a minute, before class even starts, you send an email to all of your students who are there that on the first day of class, I always think about Pirates of the Caribbean when I say this, you need to bring a bag of dirt.
Justin Anderson:Bring a bag
Amber Narro:of dirt. Yes. Bring a bag of dirt.
Justin Anderson:I email them two to three times before classes even start. Say, you're packing up things for your dorm room, bring a bag of dirt.
Amber Narro:Yep. So, like the jar of dirt on Pirates of the Caribbean. Mhmm. You know, his has a little heartbeat in it, you know, but yours is yours is viruses. Yes.
Amber Narro:Fantastic. So you've isolated them. How do you isolate a virus? What does that mean?
Justin Anderson:So the viruses are in the soil where if they're and and soil is loaded with viruses. Viruses are super specific to the particular kind of host that they're gonna use and so we need to kind of tease out from that soil sample any viruses that might infect the bacteria that we are using in our class. So in a nutshell, we take our soil sample, we throw a little bit of liquid in it that the bacteria are going to grow in and we shake it to knock viruses off of the soil particles and then we basically just take that liquid and throw it at our host bacteria. Viruses being super specific, if they find a match that they like they're gonna stick to it, they're gonna infect the host bacterial cell and they're gonna make more viruses. Okay.
Justin Anderson:And ultimately they blow that bacterial cell up to release those viruses into the surrounding environment, in our case it's in a little test tube, and so we've got that virus captured now, and then we throw a little bit more bacteria at it and those viruses get into those bacterial cells, replicate, make more viruses, blow those all up. So we basically do that in multiple different ways depending on our particular aim for what we're trying to do, but we can tease out a single virus from a soil sample.
Amber Narro:Right. And I hear you often times when you're talking to parents and students who might take this class that it's safe, that we've got we we put safety measures in place to protect the students as they're as they're digging around in their dirt, but for the most part, these are not these are not viruses that can make you ill or pass things around, and even if so, you guys are taking very strong measures to protect our students.
Justin Anderson:As I yeah. So viruses oftentimes are very, very host specific and so we are isolating viruses that infect two species of bacteria. Those viruses are gonna infect those two species of bacteria. The group of viruses and host bacteria that this whole program is part of, they tend to be really specific. So even a closely related species of bacteria don't get infected by these viruses, So that essentially means that there's zero chance that they're gonna infect you and cause any sort of disease, totally safe.
Amber Narro:Wow. Okay, so yesterday I was talking to Chris Beechey who does salamander research and one of the things that he was sharing is that he works with universities, and he works with other people at other universities and they're comparing back and forth their research and how important that was. And then you mentioned just now Mhmm. Didn't follow on me, right, that you are, part of a program. Program, I heard that.
Amber Narro:What is this program?
Justin Anderson:So this is a program run out of the University of Pittsburgh. It is called C Phages and it's also under the aegis of the Howard Hughes Medical Institute. So it's the Science Education Alliance, that's the C part, and then the phages part which are the viruses that infect bacteria, people science loves acronyms. Those are phage hunters advancing genomic and evolutionary science. And so the key parts there really are the genomic and evolutionary parts.
Justin Anderson:So we're isolating these viruses to contribute to the body of knowledge and the body of viruses that we've isolated and and isolated, then we do some genetic characterizations of them and so we can compare the genes, we can look at how these viruses evolve from one another over time and rather than using these particular organisms as antibiotics for example, we're more interested in the evolutionary aspect. How do viruses actually evolve?
Amber Narro:And you're comparing them against things that have been done all over the country. Yes, And that's now even all over the world. Right?
Justin Anderson:This program has been running for I think twenty years now. I think this is its twentieth year. I just looked today There in are thirty one thousand four hundred and fourteen viruses that have been isolated as part of this program.
Amber Narro:And with the ultimate goal of?
Justin Anderson:That's a really good question. It's really a scientific question. It's that evolution like what makes these viruses Look at
Amber Narro:me getting all scientific over here.
Justin Anderson:Knew you had it in you.
Amber Narro:I try.
Justin Anderson:You keep saying that you don't get this stuff, you get this stuff.
Amber Narro:Okay, a little bit.
Justin Anderson:A little bit. Okay. We're working on it.
Amber Narro:Okay. I'm trying, you know, I'm learning from my friends. So the ultimate goal of?
Justin Anderson:The program is really to understand what makes a virus tick. I know the program, the lead scientist right now is actually getting interested in engineering viruses. Of those 31,000 viruses that they've isolated, 6,000 of them have been sequenced and technology is developing to the point where they can actually build viruses from like parts of genomes and things and put them together and see if they work. So I think his ultimate goal I think is can we build something that can be used on an antibiotic resistant organism? Do we know the parts that are necessary to basically infect the bacterial cell and blow it up?
Justin Anderson:And then, now we've got effectively a new antibiotic that we can use.
Amber Narro:Right and we're hearing twenty years and 31,000 samples and 6,000 that have been isolated and all of these big numbers. What's taken so long?
Justin Anderson:Technology actually. The twenty years ago sequencing of a virus was not a simple thing. You had to basically chop it up into small bits and sequence those individually and probably potentially read them by eye so there were no computational tools that would do a really good job. Technology has advanced massively and so now, actually our biology department just got a new sequencer in which we should be able to take, I expect to isolate 40 viruses this semester, we could probably sequence all of those in one run overnight. Then Totally.
Justin Anderson:That's kind of my goal actually, since our program will sequence two viruses for us every year and that leaves 38 viruses this year that we don't know anything about. So we can do this in house now and sequence Justin,
Amber Narro:that has been your goal since you got here. Yes. How did you achieve that?
Justin Anderson:This actually came out of our Lake Morapah monitoring project and so they were gonna purchase a sequencer to to monitor the organisms that are in Lake Morapaw and once it's in the department, all you gotta do is buy the reagents and the supplies and things and so we were gonna be able to piggyback on top of them and buy a few supplies to run all the viruses in the class and all the viruses from last year's class and the year before that, the year before that, four years, right?
Amber Narro:I want you to hear, you know, one of the things that I wanna make sure that the listeners hear now is that this is research that's going on that's collaborative across the world and also that we are now able to do things at this university that we weren't able to do four years ago because of a project that's really just kinda taken flight Right. In in this place. You're starting to also publish out of this, correct? Correct.
Justin Anderson:Yes. My goal so I'm gonna keep saying it because I like this part of it. These are freshmen, first year college students.
Amber Narro:Yeah. Please keep saying it. These are people who, you know, were
Justin Anderson:They know nothing.
Amber Narro:Always say about my daughter, you know, one of the my favorite stories that I have and I've told this before on the show is that my daughter went over to ULL first year, and and I'm trying to get her to pick her major and everything. And she's like, ugh. You know, six months ago, I was asking if I can go to the bathroom. And now you want me to tell you what to do with the rest of my life. Mhmm.
Amber Narro:Right? This is who we are targeting here. They're coming into this, very fresh eyes, and now having done this for four years, you have people on campus who started this project as freshmen who are still working on it
Justin Anderson:Right.
Amber Narro:As seniors and are able to share with their graduate school interviewees or interviewers that they've gone through this process and have really kind of, what they've learned, what they've contributed to the body of knowledge, that's massive.
Justin Anderson:That's massive, yes. I love it when my students go to science conferences and present and students who have been doing research as undergrads for a couple of semesters, maybe a couple of years, when they go, oftentimes they get asked, you know, so how's your master's going? And they're juniors, and so, like they're doing really good work, they learn how to do the work, they learn how to communicate scientifically, and yes, it does oftentimes help them get into, you know, they're looking to go to a graduate program like a PhD program or something, it helps. Right. We sent one of our folks to the University of Notre Dame to get a PhD, after he did some virus hunting stuff and worked in my lab, so it's That's amazing.
Amber Narro:Yes. Awesome. I know you're proud of that. I absolutely know that you're proud of that. And we have we we have seen some of these students kinda come through this and be excited about it.
Amber Narro:Their names are gonna be on publications with you as well. These students as freshmen, by the way, you you don't throw them out to the wolves. Okay? They they definitely present here locally on campus, but at the end of the semester, they present to big local, like president Yes. And provost Yes.
Amber Narro:And directors of departments and and and chairs and you invite their people to come and see them. And you come. Yeah. I do. I do because it's awesome and it's fun and I still don't know what I'm talking about and I want to.
Amber Narro:So I keep trying in the class and the students tell me about all of their lysogens and their phages and stuff and Yeah. I'm starting to use the words and somewhat intelligently, I hope. But, I that's why I always bring you in and let you do the recruiting for that because you can speak about it much more intelligently than I can for sure. What in the heck got you interested in this kind of stuff?
Justin Anderson:So I was I I like projects in my classes, and I
Amber Narro:Yeah, same. So fun.
Justin Anderson:Yes. It's way more interesting. Mhmm. I started actually doing this before I came to Southeastern at my last institution, I did it for six years and I was really Where was that? Radford University in kind of Western Virginia, near Virginia Tech if you're familiar with the the geography.
Justin Anderson:And I was just looking for a project and there's several of these floating around, there's something called Tiny World, I think it's called, where they're actually hunting for bacteria that make new antibiotics. I've always been really interested in viruses, I just think they're the coolest organisms and I won't say whether they're living or not, that will start a fight with somebody, probably BG who was here yesterday and but that's alright.
Amber Narro:That's why he's not invited today. He did his show yesterday. Yes.
Justin Anderson:So, yeah, I just wanted something that would involve students, actual research projects, and I like the fact that it was a freshman level class. They really encourage it to be taught to the freshman. Students who have no experience whatsoever, get a bite, a taste of undergraduate research like doing research as a real scientist, and then hopefully the goal is to get them to continue on into the Ph. D. S and stuff.
Justin Anderson:So this was fun and, you know, you get into the classroom and I always tell the students, you know, I've got the first three days planned out. After that, I have absolutely no idea what's gonna happen. And so it really depends on the soil samples. Yeah. Whether my bacteria are actually behaving in the laboratory, you know, things like that, and it trains them that you've got some good days, you've got some bad days in science, and so, you know, we had a semester at Southeastern here, we really struggled to find viruses, we ultimately got the two that we needed, but it took us forever.
Justin Anderson:Back at Radford, I had a semester we didn't find a single virus, the entire semester, and it was soil sample after soil sample after soil sample, and it just never happened, and that's science.
Amber Narro:And this semester you feel like you're in virus heaven. Oh my gosh. That's so exciting. I just. For the for the listeners, he's he's dancing.
Amber Narro:A little bit. Little bit
Justin Anderson:of happy. Yes. It's it's and that's one of the things that I like as well because students kind of walk in and they're like, oh, what are we doing in lab today? But then, I look at a plate. I'm like, look at that.
Justin Anderson:You got three different plaque morphologies on there, like you have three different viruses on this, like.
Amber Narro:Thank you for saying what that was after you said the plaque morph Yeah. The more who?
Justin Anderson:Plaque morphology. Morphologies, yes. So, yeah. I I get excited and I I let him know and I try to be excited in the class and I think they feed on that ultimately. They get in invested.
Justin Anderson:They want to find a virus. Couple of them were sad this morning because neither of their hosts produced their soil samples produced a virus.
Amber Narro:Do they go get more dirt now? What happens?
Justin Anderson:We did a real quick and dirty on Tuesday and got results of that today. We also started a longer process that might be more successful on this past Tuesday and so we moved into that next phase, but yes, I have had students get like six soil samples because they're dead set on getting their own virus from their own samples as opposed to, you know, that the people who have three or four different viruses, we usually set up an adoption center and so people who have an extra virus can put it in the adoption center and then at some point, you know, are gonna, there are, I always liken this to fishing. Some days you go fishing and you catch fish, some days you go catch a fishing and you drink beer, and so we don't drink beer in class, but, you know, there are days where the students who they just don't find a virus, so they can go to the adoption center and take something from somebody else but then it's like an adoption, it's theirs then and so they get a little bit of information from the person who had the soil sample that was productive but that virus is then theirs and they are responsible for isolating and doing all of the work to characterize that virus.
Amber Narro:They also get to name it.
Justin Anderson:They name it. Right?
Amber Narro:Yes. You say it that they're naming their babies. So this is a baby, you're birthing babies. You're birthing the babies. Adopting and yeah.
Justin Anderson:And that's a bit later in the semester we're gonna get baby pictures, we're gonna do some transmission electron microscopy and get some actual images of the viruses and so they get to put that up on, there's a database but they get to, you know, we'll print it out and let them frame it and take it home and yeah, it's just, I try to make it fun.
Amber Narro:Indeed. Two, you send off two viruses every month. Are you gonna continue doing that even with your new equipment that you have?
Justin Anderson:Yeah. Why? Program requirement, short and sweet answer is that, and they're gonna end
Amber Narro:They require you to send They
Justin Anderson:require us to send two.
Amber Narro:We
Justin Anderson:can get more of them sequenced, they won't do it, they're overwhelmed. They've got dozens and dozens of schools that are doing this and so every school sends at least two viruses, and actually super nice that we've got two sections this semester because I can actually send off four. Four sequence by them. And you know, with our new technology, we're essentially gonna be using those two to four that they sequence every year as controls. And so we're gonna sequence them here as well and see, make sure that ours pair up with what they have the whole process worked out.
Justin Anderson:As we Oh, do very we'll basically say, do ours match theirs? And as we do it and get better, they will then accept our sequence information to put into into the database and so we'll be able to contribute more sequence information just not having them do it. We'll be able to do it ourselves.
Amber Narro:Oh, that is fantastic.
Justin Anderson:I'm excited.
Amber Narro:What a gift for for Southeastern that you bring to us. Thank you for that. Sure. I certainly appreciate you bringing that level of knowledge and experience and and sharing that experience with our students. It really is kinda magical.
Amber Narro:Thank you so much. We appreciate you. And and what you're given to the universe in in back in research as well. So I I I don't know that our public, our listening public knows about the research that goes on here at Southeastern in the level that we should be sharing it, and I think that professors are horrible about sharing what we're doing sometimes outside of our research area. We're contributing great.
Amber Narro:We we are sharing with the people that we need to share with so that we're contributing to the body of knowledge, right, but not necessarily the public and what your kids can do if they come to Southeastern with a bag of dirt.
Justin Anderson:Yes, yeah, I think we have a hard time patting ourselves on the back, getting her I certainly do. I'm happy to just sit in my lab and do the fun stuff that we're doing and get a few publications and then that's fine, but you're absolutely right, I think we need to be sharing this a little bit more, it's certainly a recruiting tool, you know, not everybody does this. This program, I think, there are two other schools that are actively doing it and one of them may not be doing it all the time. So we're perhaps the biggest group in Louisiana doing this work.
Amber Narro:Absolutely. I don't see a whole lot of it coming up. Now, I will say when we went to the National Collegiate Honors Conference, we saw a lot of bacteria, a lot of phages kind of stuff going on there. I walked around and I saw a lot of things that looked like our posters. I was like, hey, we're doing that at Southeastern.
Amber Narro:And you're at a much bigger school in Southeastern, and you're doing that as well. Right?
Justin Anderson:Yes.
Amber Narro:And then we went to Southern Regional Honors Conference where there weren't so many. You know? Yeah. So it it there was a marked difference going from national to Southern on how many schools are doing this, and it really it really made us feel special because Avery and Aiden went to Southern Regional, and I've had I've had Avery Hernsberger and Aiden Hidalgo come on the show and talk about their experience going and sharing their research Mhmm. At National Conference.
Amber Narro:And they were looking around for other people and just weren't there. You know? So what we're doing here really is cutting edge and and even though it is twenty years old, it is still a baby project.
Justin Anderson:It's still novel, we have no idea what's out there. The number of viruses in the world is astronomical, huge numbers. Indeed. Predicted. So yeah, we don't know and we could just do this forever probably and never discover all of the viruses, but you know we're starting to be able to tease things apart and Avery and Aiden are both working on projects to kind of look at the evolution or how the viruses actually work, and so yeah, it's like a fun little project and undergrads can do it immediately.
Amber Narro:Right, and they started as little baby freshmen, both of them. Aiden was one of my first students as the honors director and I remember him. He changed his major to become biology major after kind of going into this class and really learning and loving what he was doing.
Justin Anderson:I'll correct you. He came in as a biology major and then changed to health science during that semester and I told him he would be back and so he was back very shortly.
Amber Narro:I didn't realize that he had started as a biology, I met him as a health sciences major so how funny is that? I appreciate the correction, I'll accept that. I'll accept that. But he he is, I mean, he's gone abroad to study in other facilities, in other medical facilities. He is gonna be one of the cohort that goes to North Oaks this semester.
Justin Anderson:He took his work to conference in Shreveport and was awarded the best undergraduate presentation there.
Amber Narro:He was the only person the nation, to win a scholarship at National Collegiate Honors Conference as well. Mhmm. And that is a student studying here at Southeastern who had choices to go other places. He's not from Hammond by the way. You know, he's not from far away.
Justin Anderson:Right.
Amber Narro:But he's he's not from here. So it's it's exciting to have students who start their programming here at Southeastern and do their research and then can go off to to big schools and and and represent
Justin Anderson:Yes.
Amber Narro:Our little green and gold lions. Yes. What is your goal on this? What what would be your wake up tomorrow and your you know, this would be awesome and I could just say that that was the best day of my career. Oh, got it.
Amber Narro:On that project. That's a
Justin Anderson:great question and I don't know that I have, I don't think I'm gonna give you a science answer because the thing that I like best about this is actually working with the students. And so, like, and I have a lot of these good days where the students all of a sudden say, like the light bulb goes off, right? Yeah. See that they got it, all of a sudden they're like, holy, this is the coolest thing I've ever done. That's a good day for me.
Justin Anderson:When they figure it out and then they say like what do we do when this class ends? And so then the recruitment for the next phase of it starts and they can come into my lab and start working on their own project or maybe a different project, maybe they want to move into something other than bacteriophages and they can work on other viruses. I do plenty of that as well. So yeah, I think that for me is really good. I really love seeing it when the students get into it.
Amber Narro:Same, same. It's the light bulb moment. You know, come for me, for communication, it's the day that your student says, you know, I'm not writing like it's an English paper anymore. Even though that's lovely. If you're an English person, you know, I'm not knocking on English, but it's just a different style of writing that they've learned their entire lives.
Amber Narro:And then they start writing as a journalist and and start seeing that, you know, that that form come together and it starts feeling a little bit more natural. And they're like, yeah, I can I can go talk to somebody? I can write the story. I can make sure that it's it's done well. You know, it's that moment.
Amber Narro:And we all know it. And I think that that's what keeps coming back every day
Justin Anderson:Yep.
Amber Narro:Is that light bulb. Every time every time you see that light bulb, it's like, it's your win. It is. That's the win.
Justin Anderson:It's a win. And certainly, you know, we're trying to publish and Mhmm. Promote our own careers, but but yeah, think I I'm really mostly doing it for
Amber Narro:Have we gotten a publication out of this one yet?
Justin Anderson:I have two in the works.
Amber Narro:Okay.
Justin Anderson:So we are writing them with the goal of getting those sub submitted, basically to cover genome announcements for all of the viruses that we've had sequenced so far at Southeastern.
Amber Narro:Right. And just so, again, in case anybody's not in, research in in, in academic research, it takes a long time to get published. It takes a long time to do the study, to get to the publication level, and then after you've submitted it, it has to be vetted, it has to be peer reviewed, and then it might not go into publication, it gets into a line basically and goes in.
Justin Anderson:So it could be months, I think one of the papers from my dissertation, I think it took a year to get, to get reviewed actually. They finally said, we're just gonna publish it. Yeah. Because we can't get a reviewer to come back to it, so yes. Indeed.
Justin Anderson:It takes a long time, it takes a long time to write, and I don't write them. I make the students write them. So, you know, it's sort of another assignment, another paper, and then as you just said, they learn how to write scientifically, which is not the same as the English papers or the journalism or it's a it's a whole different language and
Amber Narro:It is. I've reviewed, I've I wouldn't say not reviewed. That's too big of a word. I have read Mhmm. Some of them, and it's definitely different Right.
Amber Narro:For sure. And I appreciate you being here and sharing that sharing that knowledge with our students, and and to have you is definitely a gift here at Southeastern. So we you. Yep. And you know, I I look forward to seeing what's next and all these students by the way while they're writing them, they're getting their names on those publications as well.
Amber Narro:You're sharing that spotlight with them and and what you're doing.
Justin Anderson:They end up being giant author list cause everybody who contributed, so students who didn't isolate those two pages that got sequenced contributed and usually they contribute the next semester by annotating and so yeah, we're gonna have, I think 40 student authors on one of the papers and then about 20 on the on the other one.
Amber Narro:You get a high five for that. Indeed. Thanks. Indeed. Alright.
Amber Narro:Thank you so much for joining us. We appreciate you.
Justin Anderson:Thanks Amber.
Amber Narro:Absolutely. I've been here talking to Justin Anderson. He is leading our virus hunting effort here at Southeastern and we'll be doing it again in the spring. So you take new students in the spring as well. Yeah.
Justin Anderson:It's better if they've had the fall Mhmm. Because they know how to do the stuff because we do different things in the spring semester. But, you know, we've I've got a student this semester who jumped in in the spring semester last year and so she's back to figure out what she missed in the fall semester. That's awesome. Best to start in the fall and go to the spring but I'll take whomever.
Amber Narro:Absolutely. So, if you're coming in in that 27, 28 cohort, think about this. This is a great way to just start your laboratory experimenting here at Southeastern. A way to start your scientific career for those of you who want to do that for sure. And, and we have we have brilliance across our biology department here at Southeastern and and we're glad to show them off and I'll be continuing to do that over this semester.
Amber Narro:I'm really kinda trying to start talking to a lot of our scientists as well as our researchers across the university here at Southeastern so that we can tell that story and and let the public know what we're doing right here in in Little Tange Mahoe Parish. Yes. Ain't that neat?
Justin Anderson:It is neat.
Amber Narro:It is. Alright. Thank you for listening here at ninety point nine FM, The Lion. I'm Amber Narro. Y'all join us again on Thursdays and Fridays at the Lion's Roundtable.
Amber Narro:Have a great day.
